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Vesper
Aug 3, 2010
Should we make a 2nd one for the sit, then? If so, are there grade differences between the two?
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Hueco Shuffle
Jul 6, 2010
"and if being a lone wolf means i get to disassociate myself from the socal scene, then it looks like i finally got what I wanted! w00t, hurray internet!"

You're gonna let a thread on the interwebs make you disassociate yourself from the socal climbing scene? Remind me again who's the one getting "butthurt"? Sheesh man. Look, if you can't stand a little heat, don't post such an inflammatory comment in the first place.

ps Your argument that we all just give massive star ratings to tall climbs is a little ridiculous. Look at that list of 5-star problems again. Movement, history, setting -- they all have them. Not just height.
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Hueco Shuffle
Jul 1, 2010
2 stars is a good rating. Look around the rest of the site/guidebook and you'll see that. 4-5 star ratings are VERY hard to come by (as they should be), leaving 2 and 3 star ratings for relatively decent climbs. There's no way this climb is better than something like Da Way or Methane (both 3 stars). Heck, Crack O Pop is far superior and it only gets 2.5 stars.

But like you said, subjective. If you want to be the lone wolf, you're more than welcome. I truly hope that one day, though, you'll climb something REALLY good -- and you'll realize this climb is, well, 2-stars.

**EDIT**
You gave this thing 5 stars? Are you freaking kidding me? You think this climb is as good as Change of Heart, Thriller, Midnight Lightning, and Planet X?

Man, you need to get out more.
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Hueco Shuffle
Jun 28, 2010
Two stars is pretty decent for a 8-ft tall, semi-chossy climb. It's a fun little problem, but I strongly disagree that it deserves more stars.
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Bear Territory
Jun 15, 2010
Can you provide some more info? How do you get here?
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The Hunk
Feb 6, 2010
Love love love this problem!
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Blank Gen Right
Jan 25, 2010
There's no way to add a problem without giving it a grade. This is tricky for projects, but I think it's fine to let someone give it a "guess" grade. When the FA goes down, we can change the original grade it was "guessed" at.
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Yabo Mantle
Jan 17, 2010
@Tatt - if you don't remember, just pick an old date and stick to that for sends you don't remember. Like Jan 1, 1990 or something. That way, you don't show up in the "latest sends" list, but you still have a way to keep track of your ticks (and have a say in the ratings).
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Yabo Roof Traverse
Jan 3, 2010
@heretic -- if you think it's easier than a v6, why'd you tick it as a v6? Confused...
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Planet Y
Dec 21, 2009
Nope. Aron did this Sunday
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Planet Y
Dec 21, 2009
You really think you got the FA, Aron? Really? pfffft. Not like that thing was hiding out or anything...
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The Matt Hoch Problem
Dec 8, 2009
Roger that. Changed.
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The Matt Hoch Problem
Dec 7, 2009
I heard from rtm that Hoch did not actually get the FA -- that Mills did. (despite the name) No?
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The Cave
Dec 2, 2009
Related forum post:
http://www.westcoastbouldering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=724&p=5571
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3 Honkeys and Some Hip Hop
Nov 30, 2009
Congrats on this send, Aron!!! Such a cool problem!!
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Pink Floyd
Nov 17, 2009
Done. Can you add ELP for me?
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Gunsmoke
Nov 11, 2009
@Sam - now you want to change grades for *two* established problems? ;) Quit your sand-baggin'. I think the v3 crux on Gunsmoke for me was about 10 feet before the corner. The succession of crimps with poor feet make it tough for me. I consistently climb much higher grades and still have yet to piece this thing together.
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Gunsmoke
Nov 10, 2009
@Sam - v2? Seriously? No *way* this thing is the same difficulty as The Chube. :\
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Reed's Arete
Oct 26, 2009
changed.
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Jedi Mind Tricks
Oct 16, 2009
Huh? If you send it, you're not allowed to think it was scary?
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